I have been following an extremely interesting thread on a Cuckolding Forum, a thread that is in effect the story of one husbands cuckolding, off and on, over many years.
I've enjoyed reading the story, but find that other people's comments on it might be very much missing the mark, as they are almost all negative regarding the situation. On the other hand, I have a positive view of that situation.
You can read it for yourself here:
The Real Story I Have To Tell
Devavu2009's story is long and involved, but I think well worth the read.
I'm not a member of the forum where it is posted, so have not posted my comments there, but will do so here. Who knows, perhaps Devavu2009 will find them and they will be helpful to him.
One thing that strikes me in reading Devavu2009's story is his deep insecurity. It is clear to me that his wife, through her own actions as recorded by Davavu2009, is truly with him. When Devavu2009 decided that he could no longer be a cuckold, she left her lover and stayed faithful to her husband for years. She chose Devavu2009. Despite that fact his story is repeatedly peppered with statements about how he lost her, how he could not compete. In reading his story it is clearly evident that his cuckolding, both the first and the second time, made up some of the greatest times of Devavu2009's life. Like all relationships though there were occasional problems as he recounts. Devavu2009 doesn't explicitly lay blame for these problems on anyone, but it is implied that they are mainly the result of Aaron's (his wife's lover) actions, and his wife's acceptance of them. I see it differently. To my mind, many of the problems Devavu2009 recounts were directly caused by his own insecurities. I believe that if he was possessed of a reasonable feeling of self worth many of the problems he relates would not have existed, or would have been minimized.
Another contributing factor to the problems I see is the fact that Devavu2009 believes his desires to be submissive, chastised, and cuckolded are deviant and wrong. Surely this feeling has contributed to his insecurity, and compounded the problems he recounts. I must believe that if he had been better able to embrace and accept his desires the problems all three of them faced would not have seemed to be so insurmountable.
In reading Devavu2009's story I notice that he has a bad habit of both asking for things when they are not available to him, and expressing disdain for those same things when they are. For example, his oldest and strongest fantasy is for orgasm denial. He recounts that he asked his wife to deny him repeatedly throughout their relationship. When she does so, or even talks of doing so effectively however he complains to her about it. The Lori's Tube (or it's variant, he is unclear on the point) is a huge fantasy for him before she and Aaron purchase it for him, then he rebels. When she later talks again about putting the tube on his cock, he perceives that as a 'threat.' In my experience dominant women absolutely despise such behavior. If a submissive asks for something he should expect that she may embrace it, and if she does embrace it, he should damn well be thankful for the fact that she is willing to play in that way with him, not start whining and complaining about it. It was, quite specifically in this case, his fantasy, not hers. He introduced it to her, and created the fantasy within her. He must, by any measure of reasonableness be pleased that she is exploring the fantasy that he asked her to explore. Devavu2009 violates this fundamental fairness, over and over again. That certainly contributed to the problems they faced, and indeed, was most likely the fundamental cause of the first shattering of their relationship and the probable second as well.
Related to this last point, Devavu2009 seems to not understand that he creates powerful desires in the minds of those he is intimately involved with. He relates how he would talk to his wife and her lover about how very happy he would be if he were 'locked up forever.' How badly he needs a truly secure chastity device, and how badly he needs his orgasm to be ruthlessly denied. He also relates though that in his own mind these were just words without meaning. He expressed them as facts about himself, while in fact they were nothing to him but hot words in a daydream. Where he lacks understanding is that by presenting these things as facts about himself, he got his wife and her lover thinking about them, thinking about them over the course of years. The 'dreams' of Devavu2009, through his own less than honest communication, became powerful desires within his wife and her lover. Desires that they eventually took steps to act out on their seemingly willing submissive. He expresses a measure of contempt for the fact that they didn't understand that his communications were less than honest, that they should have known he was not serious. My own view is that Devavu2009 was serious about orgasm denial, but that his insecurity, and negative feelings towards his desires, caused him to rebel against those desires. Perhaps though, what he says now is true, and he was lying to them about his desires. Either way, he lacks any sense of understanding that we all have the power to create fantasies within those people whom we are intimate with. This fundamental lack of understanding certainly contributed to the dashing of everyone's joy, including his own. Eventually, he demanded a stop to orgasm denial, and seems to express surprise at the fact that after he had done so his wife and her lover lost all interest in his fantasies and desires. To me, it is not surprising at all, they could no longer trust him, and trust is vital in any alternative sexual relationship.
Devavu2009 writes, "When I am deep into subspace, I always say this sort of thing, and I mean it. At the time." He relates this years after the first breakup that was the result of his earlier dishonesty about orgasm denial. It is regretful that after a disastrous breakup, and after the passage of time, he learned nothing about himself, or the importance of honest communication with his dominant.
Devavu2009 relates that years ago, during the first break up, his wife said to him in regards to his asking for forms of domination, then rejecting them: "Do you think this is all some big game? It's not a game for us. You're fucking with people's lives. With my life." It seems that she was communicating the problems he caused succinctly; it is unfortunate that years later he still does not seem to understand. Understand that she, and her lover, took their domination (domination he asked for) over him extremely seriously and were saddened by the fact that he would be less than truthful about his submission.
Devavu2009 seems also to be overly concerned about what other people would think if they knew about his marriage. He relates that he doesn't want to be a 'fool.' It is clear from his story that none of them parade the facts of the marriage or advertise it, so it is not a fear about what people will think when they learn the truth, rather just a fear of what they would think if they knew. I again think that this concern is driven by his insecurity and low self worth, and must believe that such negative thoughts are harmful as they pass into his consciousness. Devavu2009's wife tells him that he is filled with shame, and needs to simply accept whom he is. Good advice, unfortunately unheeded by him. Related to this Devavu2009 discusses the guilt he feels about his life and his fantasies, guilt despite the joy he finds in exploring such things with his wife and her lover.
Towards the end of the thread Devavu2009 relates that his wife has made her ultimate plan. They are to be divorced, yet Davavu2009 will continue to live with her. She will be married to her lover. This is explained as an easy way for friends and relatives to understand the change, as opposed to simply moving her lover in with her while remaining married to Devavu2009. He will remain to serve them both as their slave, in chastity, still providing oral and other sexual services to them both. She did not ask for Devavu2009's consent, saying, and he admits this, that he has consented to it dozens of times in the past via letters to her asking for exactly that.
The thread ends with Devavu2009 receiving advice from those who have been following it all along. The consensus? Hire a good lawyer, divorce the bitch, move out, get on with life, and hope that next time you find love.
I disagree. Strongly.
In my view Devavu2009 should do as he has promised so many times in the past. He should obey. He should obey his wife, and her lover, submit himself to her plan, and simply embrace their dominance over him.
He should I think:
1. Go to work within himself on his issues of insecurity, and his feelings of low self worth. He needs to realize that submitting to his wife and her lover does not make him weak, indeed submitting as they require is something that very, very few men could ever do. Being able to do so is the opposite of weakness, it is rather indicative of tremendous strength and self-control. He should be taking pride in his submission, pride in his ability to give up so very much for their mutual happiness. He needs to not only come to understand just how strong he is, but to embrace that strength, banishing insecurity, building self-esteem.
2. He writes that he, his wife, and her lover have all found the greatest joys and fulfillments in their lives while living as slave husband, dominant cuckoldress, and dominant lover. It is time that he realize and truly understand that finding joy and fulfillment through the exploration of sexuality by consenting adults is not deviant or in any way wrong. What would be wrong would be to throw all of that happiness away because one is worried about how society views such things.
3. Devavu2009 must stop asking and begging for modes of domination that he does not want. He must recognize the importance of being painfully honest in his communications with his two dominants, and must recognize that when he is less than honest those lies directly impact his dominants by showing them that he does not take their shared relationship seriously.
4. He must learn obedience. He has by his own admission asked for each and every thing his wife and her lover demand of him, over and over again. As a result, when they make such demands, he is obligated to obey. He must realize that to disobey or complain is to hurt those people in his life, and to show himself a liar. They are giving him exactly what he desires, he must obey.
5. He must bring himself to a point of empathy for his wife and her lover. He needs to understand that it is completely unreasonable for him to beg for things, and then refuse to do them, unreasonable for him to spark fantasies within his dominants and then mock those fantasies. He must realize that there are three people in the relationship and that the relationship must be a blending of everyone's desires, not simply something that exists to fulfill his desires of the moment. He must become a partner in the relationship, not a demanding brat, sitting in the corner bitching every time he does not get his way, or more often bitching when he does get his way, but not at the exact moment he wants it.
6. Devavu2009 must realize that if he acts like a spoiled brat, withdrawing himself from the relationship, mocking the very fantasies he created within his wife and her lover that they will feel betrayed by him, and want to spend time away from him. That instead, with open and honest communication, and empathy for their needs and desires, he will be an even more vital part of the triangle and they will want to include him deeper in their lives.
7. He must stop lying about his fantasies, needs, and desires. He must realize that when he lies to his wife and her lover, his lies have powerfully negative effects on their lives, and the relationship they all share.
8. He must understand that there is absolutely nothing wrong, or to feel guilty about when it comes to fulfilling sexual explorations between consenting adults. He needs to stop being concerned about what other people could think, or about any need to feel guilt for his fantasies and their mutual explorations. Instead of worrying about pleasing society, he should be worrying about pleasing himself and his dominants.
9. Devavu2009 should obey his wife; grant her the divorce she seeks. He should ensure that their assets are divided fairly, and take steps to protect the assets he is awarded. He should do this to protect his own future. Beyond that, he should obey and embrace his submission.
10. He should, as demanded, live with his wife and her lover as their denied, humiliated, and worked slave. He should embrace his role, and obey in all ways.
11. He should realize, as his wife pointed out, that he has already consented to this life, consented in the many letters he wrote begging for exactly what she is now demanding. He should accept who and what he is so that he can ride a wave of pleasure and fulfillment along with his wife and her lover, wherever she may decide that wave must lead. He must accept and obey now, for this has the potential to be the greatest ride of his life (as he himself admits throughout the story.) If he does not, he will regret it for the rest of his life, likely a life lived all alone as very few dominants would stick with a slave, husband or otherwise, who put them through what he has put his wife and her lover through.
I encourage you to read Devavu2009's story, it is truly well written and interesting. I would be curious to learn if you agree with my thoughts on it, and what he should do, or if you agree with the consensus on the forum.